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Juan wrote:

I got to say something else, sometimes I can speak in an improper way or maybe things don't come out the way I think about it,but that's the English language.

Memo and I most of the time think alike, I have spoken to him the way I feel about this. Some people took it on Yune because of the bobbies and the skin tight uniforms. I like the 2 factors, plus in the original series they use skin thigh clothes as well.

many others has often gone public claiming that Yune has an immature just because of a cover for an soundtrack album where uses an pic of minmay's skirt.

But the pic of the cover with that animal doing Minmay that's is way worse. And about the "nalgas" of Minmay I actually don't have a problem there, same way I don't have a problem with the tits oR the girls in shadow. And talk about re-writing stuff

My point is you have to be consistent. If you hate it, you do. But you can't love it now, when you had a problem with before.

I agree completely. Personally, I've criticized Shadow Chronicles many times, but never because of the boobs.

(But...I dunno, maybe I'm naive, but I never got the impression that Minmay's pet was "doing" her on the cover...I think that's all in your head, man.)

Anyway, if Macross Fan A says, "I hate Shadow Chronicles because of the fan service," and Macross Fan B says, "I love Macross the First," do they have to be consistent with each other? I don't think so. You can't paint all Macross fans (or Robotech fans) with a single brush. If I get on YOUR case for something Rhade said (for example), that would be pretty silly, wouldn't it? It's the same thing here.

There's also the fact that the skin-tight uniforms in Shadow Chronicles were MILITARY ISSUE, whereas Minmay is doing a modeling job...perhaps the complaints about the former center on its lack of realism...? Or the fact that Minmay's legs and panties are only on about five pages of a 200-page book, yet Ariel's wearing her skin-tight outfit throughout the entire Shadow Chronicles movie? People have different tolerances, and there's tons of reasons why a single person could get turned off by either Macross the First or Shadow Chronicles, but not both.

EDITED 2 POST, JUAN AND GUBABA.

THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT MACROSS FIRST. NOT A PERSONAL FIGHT BETWEEN FORUMS. YOU CAN TAKE THE SUBJECT TO CANON FODDER OR POST WHERE THE "OTHER GUYS" ARE AT IN MW. KEEP THIS THREAD CLEAN AND ON TOPIC

ESTE ES UN THREAD DE LA NOVELA MACROSS FIRST. NO PARA ATACKES PERSONAL ENTRE FOROS. HAY EL FORO DE CANON FODDER PARA ESAS COSAS. O POSTEA DONDE ESTAN ESAS PERSONAS EN EL FORO DE MW. MANTEN ESTE FORO LIMPO Y EN TOPIC

THANK YOU.

GUBABA

(But...I dunno, maybe I'm naive, but I never got the impression that Minmay's pet was "doing" her on the cover...I think that's all in your head, man.)

HAHAHAHA

I DON'T KNOW MAN. MINMEI SURE HAS A HUGE SMILE WHILE THAT PET SURE DIGGING IN WITH THE CLAWS.

Lobizon wrote:

Juan wrote:

picasaweb.google.com/psxmaster007/Macros...#5497548696412084946

Love that Misa's picture in uniform like she wore on Macross Flashback 2012.

I found it!

BRAVO! LOBIZON... BRAVO!



WHILE ON THE SUBJECT WITH JUAN FINDINGS AND REFERENCES. WHAT OTHER THINGS CAN YOU GUYS FIND FROM THE NOVEL THAT COME FROM OTHER MACROSS ANIMATION?

MEMO1DOMINION wrote:

GUBABA

My best guess that, Misa being Misa, she probably arrived really early that morning, and finished all of her prep work WAY before everyone else, so she was available.

Either that, or Captain Global assigned her the job, knowing the rest of the bridge crew would need a break from her bossiness for a while.

ALL IS SPECULATION BECAUSE NOW

SEE MY POINT? NOW WE ALREADY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH CONTINUITY AND THE COMMON SENSE OF THE STORY.

That's not a problem with continuity and/or common sense of story, it's just a different turn of events from the original. It'd be a problem with continuity if puts a halt on the natural progress of the story. The change there is way too small to be any of that.

I CAN ALSO SAY ROY IS MORE FITTED TO RUN THE MIC CONSIDERING HE KNOWS THE PLANES AND AERODYNAMICS OF IT AND WHAT AND WHAT NOT THEY CAN DO. YOU JUST DON'T THROW A GIRL WHO IS MORE FIT TO COMMAND COMING FRESH OUT OF THE ACADEMY INTO A PILOTS MIND OF THINKING TO EXPLAIN WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE PLANES TO THE CROWD.

EXAMPLE WOULD BE A RESTAURANT. THE CHEF CAN TELL YOU MORE ABOUT COOKING ON WHAT'S IN THE MENU THAN A WAITRESS EVEN THOUGHT THE WAITRESS CAN RUN A CASH REGISTER BETTER THAN THE COOK.

IT JUST DON'T JIVE.

Have you ever been to an air show? There isn't a pilot that always narrates the formations and aerial maneuvers of the show. If it's more that you're used to Roy announcing, that makes sense. Some people just don't like too many changes, and I can understand that. My only issue is the new faces of the Valkyries. they look good, but too different.

I CAN SEE THE POINT THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE WITH HAVING HIKARU FIRST ENCOUNTER WITH MISA(THE SOURPUSS FOR ROBOTECH FANS). IT'S JUST A TAD BIT EARLY IN THE STORY. YOU KNOW... TO SET UP THE PLOT BETWEEN HIKARU AND MISA THAT IS.

This isn't moving any faster in the story than it was in the original series. If one had no clue about the original story, I wouldn't see how they'd be able to see that there's really a plot point as of yet. Of course, we've all seen the story, so we know what to expect, so any small interaction could possibly get misconstrued as jumping the story too quickly.

AND THE IDEA FOR MINMEI ALREADY A STAR TAKES OUT THE FEEL OF HIKARU AND MINMEI HELPING EACH OTHER FOR ONE TO BECOME A PILOT AND THE OTHER TO BE A STAR. MINMEI IS ALREADY A STAR GOING IN. JUST LIKE SHEYRL (SHE-YRL=DYRL?) NOME. AND THAT'S EVEN THOUGHT SHE IS A "MODEL".

Huh??? It's pretty obvious by the dialogue in the first chapter that she isn't a "star". Would anyone consider some of the "booth babes" at SDCC and other conventions like that, stars or celebrities? I don't, and to most of them, it's a small gig they do for pr and for fan appeal.

As for the idea of comparing her to the Sheryl Nome character, I'm afraid that comparison seems to be a bit of a far stretch. The name is spelled Sheryl, but in anycase, don't know if you've actually read this book, or just looked at the pics, but Minmay being a small time "booth babe" reinforces the character, and is, in a way, a foreshadow of what Minmay wants to become, and will become in the story.

Towgrin

The change there is way too small to be any of that.

HA. BUT NOTICEABLE.

Have you ever been to an air show? There isn't a pilot that always narrates the formations and aerial maneuvers of the show. If it's more that you're used to Roy announcing, that makes sense. Some people just don't like too many changes, and I can understand that.

BEEN TO MANY AIR SHOWS. I LIKE THE ONE IN SAN DIEGO THE BEST. THE WALL OF FIRE IS KICK-ASH! ALSO EX MILITARY. SO SEEN MORE THAN AN AIR SHOW.

BUT NEVER SEEN SOMEONE FROM A BRIDGE ANNOUNCE AN AIR SHOW. USUALLY FORMER PILOTS. IF YOU HAVE MORE POWER TO YOU.

IT'S NOT THE CHANGES. JUST SOME THINGS DON'T MAKE SENSE. AND MISA IS NO OLD AVIATOR. SHE FRESH OF THE ACADEMY TO BE AN ANNOUNCER. EVEN FOR A REAL LIVE AIR SHOW.

This isn't moving any faster in the story than it was in the original series. If one had no clue about the original story, I wouldn't see how they'd be able to see that there's really a plot point as of yet. Of course, we've all seen the story, so we know what to expect, so any small interaction could possibly get misconstrued as jumping the story too quickly.

OR JUST THAT WE KNOW THE STORY

Huh??? It's pretty obvious by the dialogue in the first chapter that she isn't a "star". Would anyone consider some of the "booth babes" at SDCC and other conventions like that, stars or celebrities? I don't, and to most of them, it's a small gig they do for pr and for fan appeal.

As for the idea of comparing her to the Sheryl Nome character, I'm afraid that comparison seems to be a bit of a far stretch. The name is spelled Sheryl, but in anycase, don't know if you've actually read this book, or just looked at the pics, but Minmay being a small time "booth babe" reinforces the character, and is, in a way, a foreshadow of what Minmay wants to become, and will become in the story.

DID NOT READ. DON'T READ JAPANESE. IF YOU DO PLEASE TRANSLATE. I TRUST GUBABA WHEN HE SAID SHE A MODEL.

AND REMEMBER, THE ONLY TIME MINMEI MODELED WAS FOR THE RESTAURANT IN THE SDF-1. NOT OUT IN PUBLIC LIKE THAT.

LETS SEE HOW THE STORY TWIST ON HOW SHE MOVES FROM MODELING TO ACTUALLY SINGING.

All I have to say is MEMO quiet yer whining man. Its a re-imagination that's why its different. I wouldn't expect it to stay true to the original series. As far as the beaver humping Minmay in the cover. Get over that too.

Now you know how Robotech fans felt when they heard that Robotech LAM will be a reimagined.

Of course its "sexually suggestive" that's how some manga is. It sure got your attention didn't it? It sure used its suggestibility a lot better than Shadow Chronicles did with their DDDDDDDDD's.

So you're really picking at stuff that shouldn't be picked at because its a re-imagination.

OK, I have to admit, I've never heard anyone do commentary on an airshow that was part of a bridge crew. I guess they wouldn't since their spaceships are probably in orbit right now and all. But yeah, been to many, many airshows. Have family in Marines and Airforce. Two of my cousins were F-18 pilots that flew Desert Storm. One had a confirmed air to air kill, the other mostly flew air support and was responsible for taking out SCUD mobile missile launchers.

Speaking from story sense, it could make sense to have Roy piloting one of the Valkyries. As a new fighter (especially one that transforms), this wouldn't be a fighter that a lot of pilots would be familiar with, and with so much money put into a fighter with top secret capabilities, well, just speculation on a part of the series that isn't even crucial to the plot.

SIGHUP wrote:

All I have to say is MEMO quiet yer whining man. Its a re-imagination that's why its different. I wouldn't expect it to stay true to the original series. As far as the beaver humping Minmay in the cover. Get over that too.

Now you know how Robotech fans felt when they heard that Robotech LAM will be a reimagined.

Of course its "sexually suggestive" that's how some manga is. It sure got your attention didn't it? It sure used its suggestibility a lot better than Shadow Chronicles did with their DDDDDDDDD's.

So you're really picking at stuff that shouldn't be picked at because its a re-imagination.

HAHAHA.

THERE IS A LOT OF RE-IMAGINE. JUST HOPE THINGS MAKE SENSE. THAT'S ALL. AND THE MANGA JUST GOT MY ATTENTION FOR BEING MACROSS. NOT FOR THE SEX SUGGESTIVE. AND PICKING STUFF OUT BECAUSE IN TRUTH SOME STUFF DON'T JIVE.



Towgrin

OK, I have to admit, I've never heard anyone do commentary on an airshow that was part of a bridge crew. I guess they wouldn't since their spaceships are probably in orbit right now and all. But yeah, been to many, many airshows. Have family in Marines and Airforce. Two of my cousins were F-18 pilots that flew Desert Storm. One had a confirmed air to air kill, the other mostly flew air support and was responsible for taking out SCUD mobile missile launchers.

A SALUTE TO YOUR COUSINS!! DOES NOT MATTER WHAT PART THEY TAKE. THEY SERVED AND THEY DESERVE IT.

Speaking from story sense, it could make sense to have Roy piloting one of the Valkyries. As a new fighter (especially one that transforms), this wouldn't be a fighter that a lot of pilots would be familiar with, and with so much money put into a fighter with top secret capabilities, well, just speculation on a part of the series that isn't even crucial to the plot.

TRUE THAT.

LETS WAIT AND SEE HOW EVERYTHING PLAYS OUT IN BOOK TWO.



NOW ON BOOK ONE. THE ZENTRADI SOLDIER HAS ANTENNAS IN THE HELMET. I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THEM IN DYRL. IS THIS NEW OR DID I JUST FORGET?