HG has gone too far
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-Genesis has been created by a joint participation of more then 20 people through the years. For free, and from their own enthusiasm.
-UEG has a responsibility to make sure Genesis will not be commercialized , and to make sure those will be included in the credits list for creating the assets they provided)
- Genesis was a GROUP effort. Not a 1 man artwork. And i bare that responsibility as the Group leader.
We feel we cannot submit it under the submission terms for various reasons . It does not guarantee any of the issues adressed.(or more to folow)
A matter of submitting it or not is on us to decide.
However Harmony Gold decided not to let the project live if we do not submit.(The only way for the Project to be displayed they wanted is through RT.com)
And i say that is also special treatment already.... Because other fan projects are allowed to live,and display without submitting to HG.
We are not. And i believe that IS very much wrong To begin with...
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This is something UEG as a GROUP of fans, working hard for years for FREE to produce a project cannot accept...
It was an Ultimatum for us. Either Submit or Remove any Robotech elements... Under these terms we did the later..
That is Special Treatment given to us already. And THANK YOU Memo for the opportunity to finally bring the facts to public.
As for the other claims made in the previous posts...i will refrain from commenting, as they are a fruit of strong speculation , misinterpretation, unnoficial information, Personal views..
Without any facts to support them whatsoever.
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and if something isn't submitted to them, then they have no right to take it and claim it as their own.
That is all I'm going to say, I'm tired of this
merry-go-round fiasco.
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We feel we cannot submit it under the submission terms for various reasons . It does not guarantee any of the issues adressed.(or more to folow)
A matter of submitting it or not is on us to decide.
However Harmony Gold decided not to let the project live if we do not submit.(The only way for the Project to be displayed they wanted is through RT.com)
WAIT A SEC... YOUR GUARANTEE?
AS A COMPANY LIKE HG WHAT GUARANTEE THEY HAVE FROM YOU?
YES, BUT NOT EVERYONE IN THE FANDOM GOES AROUND AND TALK ABOUT ACQUIRING RIGHTS OR SAYING THIS RECENTLY....And i say that is also special treatment already.... Because other fan projects are allowed to live,and display without submitting to HG.
www.kenacubed.com/cover.html
DATED 2/11/2010
RB: Who is U.E.G. Productions?
PD: U.E.G. Productions is made up of a group of people who are from different countries and who produce animation together. There are people from Europe, SouthAmerica, NorthAmerica and Asia. U.E.G. Productions is in the process of opening headquarters in a Caribbean island and some people from different parts of the world are moving there.
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I DID NOT START THIS THREAD AND I SMELL SOMETHING WRONG WHEN SOMEONE DECIDES TO SAY ABOVE STATEMENTS AND THINK THEY NEED SPECIAL PRIVILEGES THAN OTHER FANS WITH SUBMITTED FAN WORKS.you're posting your personal opinions on the matter, and that doesn't mean they are solid facts.
EITHER YOUR CALLING IT A FAN WORK OR NOT AND I CAN SEE BY HG THEY NEED MORE THAN "WE JUST A FAN GROUP" TO GUARANTEE THAT WHAT YOU SAY IS WHAT YOU MEAN. AFTER ALL WHAT U.E.G. HAS BEEN POSTING.
I AM IN THE BELIEF THAT EVERY FAN WORK IS EQUAL AND SHOULD BE SUBMITTED EQUALLY IN RT.COM IF YOU DONT WANT TO SUBMIT IT. FINE... BUT DON'T GET CAUGHT WITH TRYING TO PIGGY BACK ON A PROPERTY.
LOOKING AT BOOTH SIDES OF THE COIN THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. BUT IN THE END PARTED WAYS. AND U.E.G. WILL NOT BE THE ONLY VIDEO OUT THERE EITHER. THERE WILL BE OTHERS. AND U.E.G. DID NOT WANT TO TAKE THAT CHANCE.
OH WELL....